This is the comprehensive transcript of Joe⁢ Spector’s​ discussion on The Tucker Carlson Show,aired on⁢ December ​29,2025.

Key ⁣Highlights: In this⁢ eye-opening‌ episode, Tucker Carlson engages wiht Joe Spector, the founder of Dutch and co-founder of Hims ⁤& Hers. They ⁣explore the exploitative dynamics driving‌ up veterinary costs. Spector elaborates on how private equity consolidation is‌ fostering local monopolies and‍ pushing‍ veterinarians to focus ⁤more ​on upselling than‍ genuine patient care.

The dialog also addresses what Spector describes as “cartel-like” behavior ‍from the American ⁣Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA), which‍ he argues is deliberately limiting the influx of new‌ veterinarians while using political lobbying to obstruct⁤ more accessible ‌telehealth ‍options. ⁣From the ⁤alarming increase in pets being⁣ surrendered due⁢ to financial ​constraints to the‌ “emotional manipulation”⁤ often ‌seen‌ in veterinary practices, this interview sheds light on why the current system is failing and offers insights ​for ​pet owners seeking solutions.

The Significance of this Discussion

TUCKER CARLSON: ⁤Joe,I appreciate you⁤ joining me today. I don’t think ‍I’ve ‌ever—perhaps once or twice—I don’t recall having an advertiser‌ as a guest before. So I want to clarify my reasons⁣ for inviting you ​here.

I reached out a few months back about your potential interest in advertising ⁢with us as you have a buisness related to pets. ⁢As someone who loves dogs—I have ⁣one right here—it was our conversation that captivated me so much‌ that it⁤ has lingered in my thoughts ​ever ⁣as. That’s why ​I wanted ⁣you here today; thank you for ⁣accepting my invitation.

Now‌ let’s get into it: veterinary care. Anyone who‌ has a ‍dog or cat understands its complexities well. There are no safety ⁤nets or insurance plans available at all, leading people to spend whatever it takes because…

JOE ‌SPECTOR: It’s‌ your beloved ‌pet.

TUCKER CARLSON: Exactly! They’re⁣ part of your ​family.